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Scientific Research Funding
An Interview with Anonymous
The following interview is with a Legislative
Director of a member of the House Committee on Science, who wished
to remain anonymous. The House Committee on Science oversees research
and development programs for all non-defense federal scientific
agencies, including NASA, the Department of Energy (DOE), the Environmental
Protection Agency (EPA), and the National Science Foundation (NSF).
What are some of the biggest accomplishments
the science committee has made in the last five years?
The science committee is not one of the more powerful committees
on the House side. One of its most serious responsibilities is the
oversight of energy programs and other science programs. The Representative
has been very active in taking into account the concerns he has
in his own district and trying to fit that into the science committee's
purview. We have a lot of federal labs in the district, and he has
been fighting for money for them. Sometimes that is actual legislation,
and sometimes it is just letters to express to the appropriators
the importance of the labs.
What are advantages of government money for research as
opposed to receiving money from a private industry?
My basic understanding is that scientists searching for basic research
funding come to the government; if they are looking for private
dollars they are generally conducting more applied research. So
for basic research, the government is generally a much better source
of funds.
There are people who argue from a libertarian perspective
that the government should only fund scientific research if it deals
directly with national security or public health. What impact do
you think such an attitude would have on research in the United
States?
The representative is a big proponent of federal Research and Development
funding. It is easy for people to say ‘oh we do not need government
for this and that, until you remind them what federal funding and
research has resulted in--small things like the internet, for example.
Very often, as you are doing basic research, you do not know where
you are going and the results are often not what you intended, which
is part of the creative process. So if you tell someone they can
only create things having to do with X or Y, I think that is not
the right way to approach science, and I think that is how the industry
approaches research most of the time because they are driven by
profits and their research has to create useful products, not just
knowledge.
Currently in the United States, there are scientifically researched
cures for impotence and we are working on one for hair loss. However,
there are still people around the world dying of curable infectious
diseases, such as tuberculosis. What do you think is the government's
role in funding research for curing these diseases in the third
world? How do you balance the desire to keep money and research
at home with the desire to help as many people as possible?
I think it is important to remember that most of government funding
is basic research and scientists are using those funds to create
basic things. The question is really how the information created
by the federal money is used by organizations to fight diseases,
be it hair loss or tuberculosis in Africa. The decision of how to
help people is really a foreign affairs question more than a scientific
funding question.
There has been a lot of debate recently about academic earmarking
as a method of going around the peer review process in order to
receive money from the government. Could you briefly discuss some
of the issues faced from the legislative perspective when it comes
to earmarking versus the traditional peer review process.
It is really hard because congressmen are in the position of needing
to deliver for constituents. On one side you want to do everything
right by the funding process, but on the flip side you want to help
the people in your district. So when you are approached by the university
in your district and they say ‘we need this facility to make
us the premiere research university on X or Y,' you are going to
work to get money for that facility. At the same time, it can be
a real problem. For instance in trying to get funding for world
class research facilities, money can be appropriated but then later
earmarked for a university in another part of the country. Even
though some congressmen are bringing home projects in their district,
it is taking away from appropriated money in someone's home district
too. There is always a trade off.
When it comes to peer review, the whole issue of who is doing the
peer review is very important to discuss. As far as I know, it has
not been a big problem in the past, but if someone is nominated
for oversight of research on an abortion pill who has a long-standing
history of being against abortion, it is important to look at the
choices they make. That has been a very pervasive issue. People
use the argument ‘What is science? Or what does the science
say?' and at the same time are manipulating the science to make
it say what they want. At this point, pretty much all you can do
to address those problems is just call attention to it as much as
possible, because once you do, they seem to be fairly self evident
problems. But if this administration does it then the next Democratic
administration will do it and it just cycles from there. You have
to remember to remain completely objective when it is science you
are dealing with, and not play politics.
Submitted by: Eric Buescher, fall 2003 intern
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